i heard bob talk about that. it's fundamentally true. spending a trillion dollars a year more than we take in. that's a fact. address it. i approach the issue with a following belief that the only way to get that in order is through rapid economic growth. there's no taxes you can raise to bring this debt down. what the president's proposing does not raise the revenue to make a significant dent on the debt, but it will make a didn't on job creation, particularly middle class job creation, and that's why i oppose the plan. i think we should do real tax reform, loopholes in there, you know, there's a loophole for writing off your yacht, into the interest, go after things like that. not as a revenue generating mechanism, although, i believe we need more revenue, and the way you generate revenue is through rapid, economic growth. it's the only way to generate the revenue needed, and then you have to hold the line op future spending. >> what are the circumstances under which you vote for a tax? >> it's not a pledge for mill millionaires and bi